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Re: Do I really need the Weatherlink SW?

December 27, 2012, 4:38 pm
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1) The WL software has diagnostics and configuration capabilities for Davis ISS equipment that other softwares do not have. So it is a good tool to have around when you have problems even though may not need it now.

2) The WL software has a very compact database so if you use it to record and store your weather data, you won't use up much HD space.

3) The WL graphical interface has a very, very retro look (some might say hopelessly outdated  Smile ); however, it doesn't require a a great deal of your computer resources to run.  So it can be run on very old machines you might have laying around.

4) If you are into gardening/lawn maintenance, there is an ag/turf module you can buy that will help you with those.  No other wx software has those capabilities.

5) Once you have some historical data, the WL software has graphing options that allow you to overlay data from previous days, months, and years for comparison purposes.  Overlays produce some very interesting revelations about your weather.  Some people with other software have commented on the WL overlay capabilities as though they didn't have that capability in other software.

6) Some people like the web site graphics that the WL software can produce.  It's personal tastes.
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Re: Weatherlink.com

December 27, 2012, 4:56 pm
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blizzardof78, I want to apologize for the harshness of my comments. I re-read your post and realized that you  probably were someone who is being nickle and dimed (well really a hundred here and a hundred there) to death by life.  It took me five years to save up enough for my initial VP2 station.  Since then I have an annual expansion/repair/web host/domain registration budget.  Running a wx station is not cheap.

The Rainwise computer links are much more expensive than Davis's.  If I understand them correctly they only sell the equivalent of a combined  Envoy and a logger at a much higher price than Davis charges for both.  Their WLIP equivalent is also pricier than what Davis charges.
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Re: Weatherlink.com

December 27, 2012, 6:01 pm
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Quote from: d_l on Yesterday at 06:56:00 PM
blizzardof78, I want to apologize for the harshness of my comments. I re-read your post and realized that you  probably were someone who is being nickle and dimed (well really a hundred here and a hundred there) to death by life.  It took me five years to save up enough for my initial VP2 station.  Since then I have an annual expansion/repair/web host/domain registration budget.  Running a wx station is not cheap.

The Rainwise computer links are much more expensive than Davis's.  If I understand them correctly they only sell the equivalent of a combined  Envoy and a logger at a much higher price than Davis charges for both.  Their WLIP equivalent is also pricier than what Davis charges.

Thanks d_l I appreciate it. I have been eyeing the necessary equipment to send my Rainwise data to the web but that, too, is good and expensive. Maybe Income Tax return time. Take care and thank you again.
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Re: Do I really need the Weatherlink SW?

December 28, 2012, 9:25 am
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I have WL running through VVpro along with VWS, WD, Cumulus and other things. When I need to talk directly to my Envoy, I take down VVPro, and then go into WL and reset its comm port to 1 and do what I need to do with the Envoy. When done I switch WL back to its VVPro comm port and fire everything back up. Having WL available is good because should I ever have to call Davis Support I am sure the first thing they will say is " go into WeatherLink and....." or " have you checked WeatherLink for...."....lol....
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Re: Yes, it is convenient

December 28, 2012, 10:31 am
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Thanks folks for all the replies. I went ahead and installed it. It's much the same as the version I used with my old WM II. I won't be running it and don't need the archive/download facilities but it is very convenient to set all the parameters on the station.
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Re: What do I need to get my station on the web?

January 2, 2013, 10:42 pm
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Chico was the first place I put up a weather station as a kid (about 34 years ago).  Very Happy

For the Davis station you'll need the Davis Instruments WeatherLink 6510SER (for serial connection), 6510USB (for USB) OR 6520 if you're going to use a Mac computer.  Cost will be around $140.  This gets the information from your weather station into your computer.

Next you'll need the computer.  That's up to you.   Smile

Then you'll need software.  WeatherLink has software which covers the basic needs.  For more features a list of good software is available at...

http://www.pwsweather.com/faqs.php#What-do-I-need-to-post-my-data-to-PWSweathercom

Some if it's free, some cost.  All have pluses and minuses.  Really comes down to a personal preference.  Good thing is all of them (I think) that cost have trial periods so you can see which one will best fit your needs.

With any of the software listed above your data can be sent to PWSweather.com/WeatherForYou.com, WeatherBug, CWOP, Weather Underground and AWEKAS all of which will give you a page that will show your current and archived data with graphs and other features.  You can send to one, some or all of them.

If you want your own weather website most of the software come with templates to help you get up and running.  If your Internet service provider gives you free web space with your account that's often enough.  If not there are places you can host your website for a little monthly fee.  Others here can comment on which ones are good.

So that's an overview.  Others will probably jump in with other help.  Feel free to ask questions.  And you'll find a bunch of helpful people here.

Welcome!
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Re: What do I need to get my station on the web?

January 2, 2013, 11:02 pm
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Most people have a datalogger that connects the console to the computer.  It stores data and also sends it to the computer.  If you buy a Davis  datalogger, it comes with Weatherlink software.  Some feel the software is dated and/or plain jane with not many bells and whistles.

I have a Davis station with the serial datalogger, and I use WUHU software because it's free and it works on my other two non-Davis stations, so I can do an equal comparison between the stations.

There are some on here that have made home-made datalogger type devices for a much lower price than Davis, but it doesn't come with any software.  And, lately, there has been some question as to whether the new consoles will work with the home-made connectors (because of Davis upgrades and such).  Do a search and look through the Davis threads for more info on this subject.

The bottom line is that you have to connect your console to the computer somehow, and you have to have software to upload the data to the internet.

OR there is also an optional weatherlink IP device that connects the console to your router, if you have a wifi network at home.  That way you don't need a computer running all the time.

Sorry if this is kind of rambling on.  It can be overwhelming to someone just getting into the hobby.  Luckily, you've found this forum, and there are some really smart folks here that can help a lot.

Good luck!  Smile
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Re: Weather link fails to plot graphic data

January 4, 2013, 9:09 pm
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Just to let people know, I got Weatherlink working properly again, with plotting and saving data. I did end up taking the batteries, unplugging power, and Datalogger, the put it back, and turned on my Davis Vantage Vue back on.

Seems the data remains in the console, and logger, so did not lose my last record on screen, or settings other then time.

Now Weatherlink works fine again.

After all the other weather programs, I keep going back to use Weatherlink as my Weather Station software, why much you ask? afterall it looks old, with old 3.1 like top menus and layout.

But it is simple and easy to read. Also I notice it is the only program, that updates all the info from my Vantage Vue, without the need to leave my computer on 24 hours a day.

All the others, it seems you have to leave your computer on 24 hours a day, else you lose, or the hi-low temps are not recorded, and leaves gaps in your records, whereas with Weatherlink, I don't find any of these problems, as I don't like leaving my Netbook on 24 hours a day.

Seems Weatherlink looks over looked due it it looks old.
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Re: Weatherlink.com

January 5, 2013, 8:20 pm
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I'm a new member and I found this forum while googling for an answer to a question. I'm a real neophyte when it comes to weather so I can answer another question that was raised in this thread. I went with the subscription to upload to the Davis weather map because 1) no set up 2) $30 is not so expensive for a full year of service (possiby dinner for 2?) 3) it's an easy way for me to track what's happening at home when I'm not there. I live in a very rural area and there aren't other weather stations reporting.
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Re: Weatherlink.com

January 5, 2013, 8:28 pm
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Quote from: JoansGarden on Yesterday at 10:20:41 PM
I'm a new member and I found this forum while googling for an answer to a question. I'm a real neophyte when it comes to weather so I can answer another question that was raised in this thread. I went with the subscription to upload to the Davis weather map because 1) no set up 2) $30 is not so expensive for a full year of service (possiby dinner for 2?) 3) it's an easy way for me to track what's happening at home when I'm not there. I live in a very rural area and there aren't other weather stations reporting.

Welcome to the forum!! So what is the name of your station, or better yet, can you direct us to a direct link to your data? Thanks!

Don in Ohio
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WL Directory

January 6, 2013, 3:26 pm
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It never occurred to me before but I have quite a history going on here with WL Beginning with version 3.  While, version 4 is only marked by a PDF file nearly all of version 5 and on is listed in my WL directory:
My data files go back to January 1997
You will also not that my WeatherLink directory/folder is not found under C:\.  It is actually located in D:\Users\Randall\Weather\WeatherLink\ and has been since I can remember...
(Sorry for the blocked out network system but it listed some of my kids names).

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Re: WL Directory

January 6, 2013, 6:25 pm
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Cool.  I've cleaned out a bunch of executables, but I do have .wlk files back to 1999-04.wlk

I suspect that there are others here who have older data files.
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Re: WeatherLink 6.0.2 Failure

January 6, 2013, 9:28 pm
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Jack,

Thanks for confirmation re"old" versions - as you say, very sloppy programming.

Dave
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Re: WeatherLink 6.0.2 Failure

January 7, 2013, 8:02 am
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Quote from: Dewcal on Yesterday at 11:28:14 PM
, very sloppy programming.

Davis' method "enforces" the requirement to install an original version before an upgrade will work. 

It also allows a trivially-easy rollback to a previous version, in case of problems.

Whether that is sloppy (or intended or accidental) could be argued, of course. 

We could also discuss what happened to cause the "failure" reported in this thread.
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Re: WeatherLink 6.0.2 Failure

January 7, 2013, 8:55 am
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I guess this is the first programme I have used that requires the "original" to be left installed when an upgrade is applied.  I am used to programmes like PhotoShop that ask for serial numbers or others (MS Office?) that ask to see the "original" DVD before allowing a clean install of the upgrade version.

As to why the updated version failed is, I am afraid, beyond me.  All I can recollect doing over the festivities was upgrading a couple of HDD neither of which were my "C" or operating system drive.

Anyway, v6.0.2 is still working today!

Thanks again.
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Re: WeatherLink, APRS-WX and Wunderground

January 8, 2013, 12:21 pm
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Have you considered exploring the possibility of a dialup internet connection?  Is there a phone line accessable or nearby?  My weather computer is connected to dial up and I have three stations sending rapidfire to WU, and data to PWS Weather and CWOP.  If it remember right it's aroud $25/month.  The weather data is only a couple of numbers and text every few seconds.  Of course, the data usage depends on your update rate.  I don't unload with weatherlink, so I don't know the upload interval options.  But if possible, dialup is a possibility that works well for data uploading.  And it's available 99.9% of the time.

You may want to ensure there are no other programs on your weather computer using bandwith, too.
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Re: WeatherLink, APRS-WX and Wunderground

January 8, 2013, 1:15 pm
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It is clearly possible to do this via ham radio and APRS. 

Davis offers a special module, and the descriptions are here:

http://www.davisnet.com/product_documents/weather/app_notes/AN_35-ham-radio-for-aprs.pdf
http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_product.asp?pnum=06540

However, that's tailored for the situation where you are mobile, and need to report both position and weather. 

But if that's possible, then doing it from a fixed location should also be possible.

Now, I'm a ham, but I've never pursued that capability.  Now that we know that it's possible, let's see what details we can chase down.  Perhaps ARRL or your local nets would have someone who knows?
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Re: Weather link fails to plot graphic data

January 9, 2013, 12:59 pm
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Quote from: denodan on January 04, 2013, 11:09:00 PM
Just to let people know, I got Weatherlink working properly again, with plotting and saving data. I did end up taking the batteries, unplugging power, and Datalogger, the put it back, and turned on my Davis Vantage Vue back on.

Seems the data remains in the console, and logger, so did not lose my last record on screen, or settings other then time.

Now Weatherlink works fine again.


I followed your advice, but it didn't work.  I'm not overly surprised it didn't work, since I'm using the VP2 console, not Vue.
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Re: Weather link fails to plot graphic data

January 9, 2013, 2:03 pm
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Quote from: Bunty on January 02, 2013, 11:12:37 AM
I have the same problem with graphs not updating since Nov. as shown here:  http://stillwaterweather.com/History_Vantage_Pro.htm.  I would rather not try solving the problem by turning off and then back on the console.

No, I don't think you have the same problem that the OP asked about.

Quote from: Bunty on Yesterday at 02:59:38 PM
I followed your advice, but it didn't work.  I'm not overly surprised it didn't work, since I'm using the VP2 console, not Vue.

Exactly what advice did you follow, and what did you do?  What weather software are you using (in addition to WeatherLink)?

When you look at the strip charts in weatherlink (not the ones on your website), what do you see? 

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Re: Weather link fails to plot graphic data

January 9, 2013, 10:08 pm
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Quote from: dalecoy on Yesterday at 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: Bunty on January 02, 2013, 11:12:37 AM
I have the same problem with graphs not updating since Nov. as shown here:  http://stillwaterweather.com/History_Vantage_Pro.htm.  I would rather not try solving the problem by turning off and then back on the console.

No, I don't think you have the same problem that the OP asked about.

Quote from: Bunty on Yesterday at 02:59:38 PM
I followed your advice, but it didn't work.  I'm not overly surprised it didn't work, since I'm using the VP2 console, not Vue.

Exactly what advice did you follow, and what did you do?  What weather software are you using (in addition to WeatherLink)?

When you look at the strip charts in weatherlink (not the ones on your website), what do you see? 



I did similar to what denodan did, which was to  take out batteries, unplug power and USB from the VP2 console, wait a bit, and then restore everything as before.  The strip charts cut off in early November, like on the web.  Other wx software used is Weather Display.
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